Oppo political poll: Results posted!

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer)
11/06/2018 at 21:51 • Filed to: None

Results:

Raw data:

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Processed:
If Oppositelock made up the American government:

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Now we just need to choose who’s going to be the senate Majority leader House Speaker of Oppo. I’d also like to note that these are our friends, so any discourse in the Comments should be CIVIL.

Original Post:

Maybe we could get a better understanding of Oppo’s leanings if we answered a poll:

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About the results:

Due 30-60mins after survey closes:

In order to make a three way pie chart for the Governors, Senators, and Representatives I will split it thusly*,

R: Republicans+ “evenly by state”

D: Democrats

I: “Split into three parts”

Those in the “Evenly by population” will be split evenly over R, D, and I

In the case of Governors, we know that you need a 3/4 majority to pass constitutional amendments, so anyone getting a 3/4 majority would be the most powerful group by states.

For the question about the Senate, the final result would be given like this:

Kept as Upper chamber= It is fair

Turned to Lower chamber= It isn’t fair+ it should be the lower chamber

*: don’t let this sway your vote! I will publish raw data too.

DISCUSSION (72)

Rainbow > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:40

I think Oppo is socially liberal and very mixed in o ther areas, but still much farther to the left than the front page commenters.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:42

I’m not American so I’m not familiar with the process, but aren’t midterms more important that presidential elections? I’ve always viewed the president as a lightning rod for praise and criticism for anything that goes wrong, like the CEO of a company. However, aren’t midterms about voting for governors or something at a state/local level or some shit like that? Isn’t this more important?

PanchoVilleneuve ST > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:42

Sorry about throwing your poll off by being a socialist demarchist, but I figured I’d be honest.

Spanfeller is a twat > PanchoVilleneuve ST
11/06/2018 at 18:43

Hey, I chose option 1 too.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:45

according to the last poll i took im a socialist libertarian

but im not american so i refuse to take this one

Rainbow > gin-san - shitpost specialist
11/06/2018 at 18:45

Yes and no. You’re right that the president isn’t as important as congress, but we vote for those guys during the presidential election, too. Midterms are largely the same, just without a change of president.

I think. Maybe it’s different people each time. I just know there are a lot on each ballot.

Spanfeller is a twat > gin-san - shitpost specialist
11/06/2018 at 18:47

It depends if you respect the Executive branch or the Legislative branch more, and who’s wielding more power at the time. Right now I’d argue that the Executive branch is very important, probably a little bit more than the legislative.. But if we go many years back to the Radical Republicans post civil war, I’d say the Congress was more important.

Spanfeller is a twat > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
11/06/2018 at 18:47

Socialist libertarian... that’s quite a contradiction

I HATE TAXES!*

*: unless they’re for the rich

lone_liberal > gin-san - shitpost specialist
11/06/2018 at 18:48

Yes and no. The President, as head of the Executive Branch, nominates federal judges, the secretaries of federal departments, negotiates treaties, and has wide ranging powers through executive orders, though not as wide ranging as Trump believes. The mid-terms have some races for governor (not all states elect on the same cycle), various local and state races, and some US Senate and all US House positions. A lot of the same positions would be up in a presidential year so I wouldn’t consider it more important but it’s still very important.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:50

hey thats what the poll told me

im team murder all the rich people and spread the w ealth equally

also leave me alone.... i just want to work for fucks sake

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 18:51

What are the results? We need a link to see the results!!!

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
11/06/2018 at 18:51

I thought you were a Marxist Republican!!

Spanfeller is a twat > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/06/2018 at 18:52

We’ve only had eight responses, but I’ll make them public tonight.

Spanfeller is a twat > Rainbow
11/06/2018 at 18:56

Which front page? with GMG mixing up everyone, all pages look like a clusterfuck of extremes.

CB > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 19:00

Where does “Canadian” fall on this?

Spanfeller is a twat > CB
11/06/2018 at 19:01

I could make a poll for politics internationally, but since it’s the eve of the midterms, I thought about just making it about american.

You shoul d still participate....I think

RallyWrench > CB
11/06/2018 at 19:02

pls send halp

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 19:04

It would be more accurate and easier to understand if it was just Senate and House of Representatives. Upper and lower chamber of congress is confusing to me and probably others.

Spanfeller is a twat > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
11/06/2018 at 19:06

I’ll change it...

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > CB
11/06/2018 at 19:11

Nobody gives a shit about Canadians.

I demand to know why there isn’t a “Giant Meteor” or “Nuclear Holocaust” option.

CB > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
11/06/2018 at 19:11

Well that was unnecessary.

Spanfeller is a twat > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/06/2018 at 19:13

As of now with 27 responses, It seems like 2/3 to 3/4 of respondents would like it if the US was ran by Democrats.

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 19:17

But I want to see the results.

facw > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 19:18

My feeling is that the Jalopnik FP is the most conservative of the main GMG sites (though Splinter gets more conservative trolls). Kotaku sometimes has a disturbing number of MRA-types, but doesn’t always seem to be the case, so I suspect it’s related to where articles get linked as opposed to being a significant portion of the readership.

Spanfeller is a twat > facw
11/06/2018 at 19:19

Yeah , my understanding also is that Jalopnik is the more conservative one...

Spanfeller is a twat > Shamoononon drives like a farmer
11/06/2018 at 19:19

I’ll wait until I have more responses.... we have 30-ish by now. Democratic control of Governorships and the Congress is at around 70%

Spanfeller is a twat > Shamoononon drives like a farmer
11/06/2018 at 19:27

Most of the newest responses where to Republicans, current breakup still gives dems mayority

Spanfeller is a twat > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
11/06/2018 at 19:32

I mean... I thought about giving the “other" option but people abused it.

jminer > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 19:50

I imagine we lean left, but not drastically so. It’s in general a younger bunch of folks here which has traditionally swung democratic when they care enough to vote.

Spanfeller is a twat > jminer
11/06/2018 at 19:55

Well, the Poll is painting an interesting picture.

Your boy, BJR > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:00

Ok that’s legit me.

nermal > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:05

I had a question on my ballot about raising my property taxes to increase funding for schools or schools lunches or whatever.

My theory is that funding the schools and feeding the children gives them more energy, which they can use for running on my lawn. So, screw ‘em. Hard no on that one!

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > gin-san - shitpost specialist
11/06/2018 at 20:06

Representatives are elected for two years, so they’re elected both during midterms and during the Presidential election. Most governors are 4 years, but some are offset to take place during midterms.

Senators are elected for 6 IIRC , so it just depends. Sometimes they’re elected during midterms, other times during the presidential election.

jminer > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:07

I will admit some of the questions were a little specific and when googled led to some definite tin foil hat type websites. Like the federalizing of elections and presedentialism.

Living in a very red state that works hard to remove rights from women, minorities and immigrants I’m definitely game giving the state less ability to do so by further regulating it at the national level. This was the first major election where a voter ID law was in effect and it’s definitely a pain for folks like me who have the resources to deal with it, for those that don’t it’s an insane solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

I am game for a strong executive branch - yes we have a nutter in there now but in order for a government as large as ours to function effectively there needs to be autonomy and power there. This requires an executive branch to be able to make changes and execute policy both as the lawmakers mandate and within the non-defined grey area.

A move to a parliamentary system is an interesting thought. With the direct leader not elected but chosen by the ruling party. It works in several large governments in the world and the ability to recall your rulers mid-election cycle and shake up the entirety of government if it isn’t fulfilling the needs of the people is a very intriguing thought.

/end political thoughts

Spanfeller is a twat > nermal
11/06/2018 at 20:10

I think Kemp is killing it in GA.

nermal > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:13

I’m rooting for him to win a Putin-esque 140% of the vote, just to see what happens.

Spanfeller is a twat > nermal
11/06/2018 at 20:15

I mean, he is the Secretary of State... if he looses he’s going to be a honorable looser... if he wins it might raise more questions that he might want. He should’ve resigned the Secretary of State .

nermal > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:24

Yep, that whole conflict of interest thing.

If you don’t have enough cronies to get somebody to take your place to gerrymander and voter repress people so that you win an election, do you really deserve to be governor?

Spanfeller is a twat > nermal
11/06/2018 at 20:28

At least one of the Cabinet members should be able to Cronie

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:42

Jalopnik is full of libertarians, who might be the worst of them all somehow.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > gin-san - shitpost specialist
11/06/2018 at 20:42

The congress could really derail Dumpsters train. Even with a republican congress Trump has had a terrible time getting any legislation through.

ranwhenparked > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:45

Welp, I’m a constitutional monarchist, so I don’t know how that’s going to throw off the poll.

Spanfeller is a twat > ranwhenparked
11/06/2018 at 20:46

Well, I understand why someone would vote that the EC should be less democratic... I would do so if I’m honest.. the Presidency should be decided like a Prime M inister is but with S tates

ranwhenparked > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 20:53

I don’t think that was me. But, I like the idea of separating the roles of head of state & head of government.

Let the head of state be nonpartisan and nonpolitical, represent the country as a whole, and be there to mediate any stalemates that might arise from partisan bickering in the legislature, and be a source of stability and institutional knowledge. Plus, I don’t see how a proper system of checks & balances can function if every single office is either held by a partisan politician, or appointed by one. Someone needs to check the politicians, they can’t do it for themselves.

Leave the politics to the head of government, who can be more directly accountable to voters and come/go as opinion changes.

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > nermal
11/06/2018 at 20:54

I had a conversation with a “friend” this morning which I was reminded of by your comment. He actually thinks we should eliminate all welfare and social programs so the problems of addicts, unwanted pregnancy, and poverty “work themselves out,” affected parties dying being heavily implied. Sometimes I forget that there are people who actually believe that. He routinely rejects the concept of restorative justice and social justice in general.

nermal > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
11/06/2018 at 21:09

Actually fixing real problems is difficult. Especially the ones you noted.

A lot of times you can improve certain issues with a “ solution” that seems counter-intuitive. A good example is needle exchange programs and “safe rooms” for people to do heroin. Yes, you’re preventing the spread of disease due to needle sharing, and helping to prevent ODs. Even though this is an improvement, it’s not a solution because it ignores the root cause of the problem.

On the other hand, shouting hyperboles is easy, enjoyable, and effective for winning elections. So, that’s why people do it.

People also vote selfishly, such as my vote against the tax increase. Surely a majority of people with hungry children that rent instead of own their house , and thus don’t pay property tax, all voted yes on it.

Textured Soy Protein > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 21:47

I’m right and the rest of you are wrong. U nless you happen to agree with me, then you’re ok.

RangerSmith > ranwhenparked
11/06/2018 at 22:05

Someone needs to check the politicians, they can’t do it for themselves.

That is literally our job as citizens. That is why we vote. The house of representatives is supposed to be our voices in our federal government. That’s why its so important to pay attention to how your representatives are voting. A nd whether or not they are actually representing you, or just voting along party lines.

RangerSmith > nermal
11/06/2018 at 22:10

Some areas will propose a temporary levy to raise funding for a limited time. Levies often expire when the funds are raised, or after a set period of time.

ranwhenparked > RangerSmith
11/06/2018 at 22:17

Theoretically, but we also only have a two party system, and, fundamentally, most of them end up behaving the same way once they’re there, or making the same corrupt bargains to get there in the first place.

DipodomysDeserti > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 22:22

Socialist libertarian would be one way of describing certain types of anarchists.

RangerSmith > ranwhenparked
11/06/2018 at 22:22

Vote them out and replace them with someone else. And someday if you are fortunate enough; you have the ability to run to try and represent your neighbors.

DipodomysDeserti > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/06/2018 at 22:26

Pictured: Communist Republicans

Kinja'd!!!

wafflesnfalafel > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks
11/06/2018 at 22:28

um... I really like their natural gas to heat my house, and they make great craft beer, (but poutine is still just wierd...)

WilliamsSW > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
11/06/2018 at 22:29

They’re not as bad as National Socialists but they’re next worst after that

ranwhenparked > RangerSmith
11/06/2018 at 22:31

You’re not going to convince me. I consider all politicians to be a single class of people that need their power constrained to some degree. Voting isn’t the only answer, because you’re just replacing one with another, and you only vote every two years anyway. A lot of damage can happen in that time, not all of it reversible.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 22:31

Your poll is i nvalid because I missed it.

Spanfeller is a twat > WilliamsSW
11/06/2018 at 22:32

I did make three posts about it...

But you can comment on what you think about the results... Plus who's gonna be our speaker? I vote for For Sweden.

B/Xmrrmvr > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 22:39

I also missed it

Spanfeller is a twat > B/Xmrrmvr
11/06/2018 at 22:41

Oh dang. I mean, if your name is anything to go by, your team won!

well... it was a popular article. Maybe I'd make it less American-esque; more focused on global oppos, and show a real political makeup.

WilliamsSW > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 22:45

I think we should just make Pumpkin be our King.

And by Pumpkin, I mean IMs cat, not the pumpkin currently in the white house.

Spanfeller is a twat > WilliamsSW
11/06/2018 at 22:46

I’d go for Toby.

So polarized, our internet...

Maxima Speed > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 22:48

I missed it. How?

Spanfeller is a twat > Maxima Speed
11/06/2018 at 22:53

It was up for like four hours.

though I admit that at this pace of complaints (three now) I'm resembling Brian Kemp when it comes to supression.

Maxima Speed > Spanfeller is a twat
11/06/2018 at 23:05

*sighs* the one day I wasn’t on Oppo religiously this is what happens

Spanfeller is a twat > Maxima Speed
11/06/2018 at 23:16

But how do you feel about the results? the Senate one amazed me.

MrDakka > farscythe - makin da cawfee!
11/06/2018 at 23:44

But what about when you work hard and then become rich?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > MrDakka
11/07/2018 at 06:25

work hard and become rich?.... not in my line of work

i’d have to win the lottery

and then i wouldnt know what to do with all that money anyway.. ill get bored if i stop working, dont want a supercar or a mansion.... really it’d just be one less worrie

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > Spanfeller is a twat
11/07/2018 at 08:57

wheres the option flr literally couldn’t give a crap

Spanfeller is a twat > Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner
11/07/2018 at 10:25

There’s an app for that!

Maxima Speed > Spanfeller is a twat
11/07/2018 at 12:31

You mean the widespread disapproval of the senate? Yeah, that’s disturbing. I think it points to a lack of understanding of the intent of the founders. As far as how many republicans? Im really curious about how many conservatives who would normally vote republican would go independent just because of the parties direction. I for one am a registered republican but my views align with right wing liberatarianism. I always give liberatarians a fair shake first before voting but usually spring for Republicans because of a more cohesive, dedicated platform.

Spanfeller is a twat > Maxima Speed
11/07/2018 at 13:28

Well. I understand and appreciate the role of the senate, but I also understand why some people feel that way about it...it’s very disturbing for liberals, who have been a majority of Americas for a number of years, to have the upper chamber of their congress be more conservative. I wouldn’t get rid of the senate, but I’d argue that the role of representing small states can be handled better from the lower chamber than the upper one. Granted, with the Senate on the lower chamber you loose some federalism; but how federalized is the US anyway by now?

Many contradictory governing philosophies arise from this, but other results are also interesting, many oppos believe in independents, and I think that’s great; they don’t have to align to national politics as much, which in the end is more democratic! maybe it would’ve been nicer to see a 33/33/33 split in the results, but I think that as the results came in for the Oppo Poll, the Oppo government would be multipartisan. which in the end is better than the alternatives